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The frustration and exhaustion with appalling political governance apparent in voters quoted in this piece mirrors the mood of the country.
Both major parties while not lacking some individuals of talent (albeit for the Tories they mainly now sit as independent conservatives) are largely poorly led and pursuing power for its own sake.
High cost ideology not evidence are the basis of their policy making. In one corner, Tories as Brexshit party with no real bandwidth for anything else for years . They can't get Brexit done as though it's an event not a long costly drawn out, oxygen sapping process. In the other corner, someone pursuing some bizarre top down economic transformation that might work in an academic thesis but is not grounded in any understanding of an interdependent global economy and based on really childish axioms of private sector and competition inherently bad, public sector and state monopolies inherently good,.
So like the voters you quote, I'm really fed up with them too. We both need better and deserve better. But one thing is for sure and that is that the ongoing pursuit of Brexit and versions that require the most disentanglement of 45+ years of cooperation is inherently costly and full of risks that our government headed by BoZo shows no capacity to address. And nor Corbyn.
People should vote tactically to bring Brexit to a real end through revocation or referendum and vote out the leaderships of major parties. Then there may be some space to focus on real issues, not the least of which is fixing our joke political governance.
You report: "in such a complex electoral situation, many MPs fear the poll could just lead to another hung parliament, more deadlock and more Brexit paralysis."
Another referendum is the only thing that will crack Brexit, and the sooner parliament gets round to seeing that all other routes have failed, and capitulates, the better.
The SNP and LibDems should make significant gains in the Election. A Remain-based alliance between them could be a powerful factor in terms of parliamentary numbers, allowing them to insist on immediate legislation for a second referendum with two choices (1) the Current Withdrawal Agreement as most recently negotiated with the EU, and (2) Rescinding Article 50, as a condition for supporting Labour.
And if young voters actually vote this time, there is a good chance that Remain will edge it. And that would be healthy. Their vote matters more, because it is their future far more than the older folk's.
Here's hoping. But in reality who on earth knows what result this election will bring? Will our politics become stranger again, or will they begin to resolve themselves?
There is much coverage of Boris Johnson’s ‘commitments’ to various sections of society particularly in the Midlands and North. There are two problems here. First, Johnson is a fluid and facile liar and has proved time and time again that his ‘commitments’ are valueless. Secondly, major parts of the UK outside London and the S East have been hollowed out economically over the last decade as a direct result of ten years of Tory budget cuts aimed at every segment of public expenditure. Voters everywhere should reflect on the possibility of either of these two tendencies changing much under Boris Johnson’s leadership.
The critical issue for me, is whether our young generation motivate themselves to vote. It’s an unknown that has the potential to up-end all these electoral calculations.
It’s well-known that the u35s are weak voters. At the younger end of that age group, hardly any vote at age 18 with progressively higher proportions voting as they get older and find themselves with family responsibilities.
It’s been demonstrated that the young voters are motivated to vote by the unemployment of themselves their siblings and peers. And especially by their own responsibilities now that the ‘normal average age’ of a first parental birth has reached the grand old age of 30. Unthinkable a few decades ago.
The huge burden of University fees, the difficulties of securing a job and the inflated rents and prices of even small homes are their greatest concern. Issues that may be crucial to the outcome of this election.
The results of the next election are hidden in a Channel fog or even a London pea-souper, when each affluent household was burning coal.
Voters are starting to see that the Boris Plan is only a starting point, only designed to produce an exit from the EU, with no clear understanding or explanation of what comes next. What comes next? It's like a fairground 'Lucky Dip' or backing a horse at the races...the Boris approach is to get the voter to sign up for an outcome for which he/she has no real idea or no guarantee. It's an investment with no insurance...it's a flutter. Fall off the cliff or survive?
Remaineers won't become Leavers, and Leavers won't become Remainers. The dive is pretty much fixed. It's up to us Remainers to keep BoJo out of power by tactical voting. Tory supports don't do tactical voting. Farage supporters are often ex-Labour Brexiters who can't bring themselves to voting for the Tories (i.e. those ex-Labour Brexiters who don't have a problem with voting Tories have already migrated to BoJo) and they are not very likely to engage in tactical voting either. Lib Dem supporters are the most likely ones to vote tactically. Labour supporters are not very likely to rexiprocate, but never mind. The most important thing is to stop BoJo.
The possibly most British of all political myths in the UK: that of a ‘hung’ parliament being a ‘crisis’.
Have a very short look at the rest of Europe, and you’ll find plenty of written constitutions and electoral system literally built on the concept of what in the UK is called a ‘hung’ parliament. With nearly no political party in the position of being able to drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the Century of the Fruitbat (pace T. Pratchett).
And the EU Parliament is able to give a voice to seven major party ‘families’ and oddballs like the UKIP/Brexit Party.
It’s the only European country where you are told that voting for Chocolate might give you Strawberry. And Cuba, instead of Singapore. Or the Farage 2016 promise for Norway, now exchanged for North Korea.
From a previous Conservative voter.
Johnson must go.
He and his cabinet constitute, together, a dangerous group of inexperienced MPs with quite dubious backgrounds and extreme right wing views. They are obsessed with Brexit and committed to it simply because they cannot lose face following the referendum, itself an act of madness.
The referendum was based on Johnson's lies and deceit and every economic prediction is showing that it will lead to the economic ruin of our country. It is a reckless, huge leap into the unknown, a totally unnecessary gamble orchestrated just to bring Johnson and his crazy followers into power. But now they have no idea whatsoever how to halt its horribly damaging impact.
Jeremy Corbyn will never win the forthcoming election - we will end-up with a coalition government and this is exactly what we need. A coalition government will provide a reasoned, balanced approach and stop the Boris-led extremists in their tracks.
We must not vote Tory - they have completely lost the plot. Brexit is based on lies and deceit and all the evidence shows it offers us no advantages whatsoever - it will only give us a Trump-style future where decisions are made by complete amateurs.
Both major parties while not lacking some individuals of talent (albeit for the Tories they mainly now sit as independent conservatives) are largely poorly led and pursuing power for its own sake.
High cost ideology not evidence are the basis of their policy making. In one corner, Tories as Brexshit party with no real bandwidth for anything else for years . They can't get Brexit done as though it's an event not a long costly drawn out, oxygen sapping process. In the other corner, someone pursuing some bizarre top down economic transformation that might work in an academic thesis but is not grounded in any understanding of an interdependent global economy and based on really childish axioms of private sector and competition inherently bad, public sector and state monopolies inherently good,.
So like the voters you quote, I'm really fed up with them too. We both need better and deserve better. But one thing is for sure and that is that the ongoing pursuit of Brexit and versions that require the most disentanglement of 45+ years of cooperation is inherently costly and full of risks that our government headed by BoZo shows no capacity to address. And nor Corbyn.
People should vote tactically to bring Brexit to a real end through revocation or referendum and vote out the leaderships of major parties. Then there may be some space to focus on real issues, not the least of which is fixing our joke political governance.
You report: "in such a complex electoral situation, many MPs fear the poll could just lead to another hung parliament, more deadlock and more Brexit paralysis."
Another referendum is the only thing that will crack Brexit, and the sooner parliament gets round to seeing that all other routes have failed, and capitulates, the better.
The SNP and LibDems should make significant gains in the Election. A Remain-based alliance between them could be a powerful factor in terms of parliamentary numbers, allowing them to insist on immediate legislation for a second referendum with two choices (1) the Current Withdrawal Agreement as most recently negotiated with the EU, and (2) Rescinding Article 50, as a condition for supporting Labour.
And if young voters actually vote this time, there is a good chance that Remain will edge it. And that would be healthy. Their vote matters more, because it is their future far more than the older folk's.
Here's hoping. But in reality who on earth knows what result this election will bring? Will our politics become stranger again, or will they begin to resolve themselves?
There is much coverage of Boris Johnson’s ‘commitments’ to various sections of society particularly in the Midlands and North. There are two problems here. First, Johnson is a fluid and facile liar and has proved time and time again that his ‘commitments’ are valueless. Secondly, major parts of the UK outside London and the S East have been hollowed out economically over the last decade as a direct result of ten years of Tory budget cuts aimed at every segment of public expenditure. Voters everywhere should reflect on the possibility of either of these two tendencies changing much under Boris Johnson’s leadership.
The critical issue for me, is whether our young generation motivate themselves to vote. It’s an unknown that has the potential to up-end all these electoral calculations.
It’s well-known that the u35s are weak voters. At the younger end of that age group, hardly any vote at age 18 with progressively higher proportions voting as they get older and find themselves with family responsibilities.
It’s been demonstrated that the young voters are motivated to vote by the unemployment of themselves their siblings and peers. And especially by their own responsibilities now that the ‘normal average age’ of a first parental birth has reached the grand old age of 30. Unthinkable a few decades ago.
The huge burden of University fees, the difficulties of securing a job and the inflated rents and prices of even small homes are their greatest concern. Issues that may be crucial to the outcome of this election.
The results of the next election are hidden in a Channel fog or even a London pea-souper, when each affluent household was burning coal.
Voters are starting to see that the Boris Plan is only a starting point, only designed to produce an exit from the EU, with no clear understanding or explanation of what comes next. What comes next? It's like a fairground 'Lucky Dip' or backing a horse at the races...the Boris approach is to get the voter to sign up for an outcome for which he/she has no real idea or no guarantee. It's an investment with no insurance...it's a flutter. Fall off the cliff or survive?
Remaineers won't become Leavers, and Leavers won't become Remainers. The dive is pretty much fixed. It's up to us Remainers to keep BoJo out of power by tactical voting. Tory supports don't do tactical voting. Farage supporters are often ex-Labour Brexiters who can't bring themselves to voting for the Tories (i.e. those ex-Labour Brexiters who don't have a problem with voting Tories have already migrated to BoJo) and they are not very likely to engage in tactical voting either. Lib Dem supporters are the most likely ones to vote tactically. Labour supporters are not very likely to rexiprocate, but never mind. The most important thing is to stop BoJo.
The possibly most British of all political myths in the UK: that of a ‘hung’ parliament being a ‘crisis’.
Have a very short look at the rest of Europe, and you’ll find plenty of written constitutions and electoral system literally built on the concept of what in the UK is called a ‘hung’ parliament. With nearly no political party in the position of being able to drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the Century of the Fruitbat (pace T. Pratchett).
And the EU Parliament is able to give a voice to seven major party ‘families’ and oddballs like the UKIP/Brexit Party.
It’s the only European country where you are told that voting for Chocolate might give you Strawberry. And Cuba, instead of Singapore. Or the Farage 2016 promise for Norway, now exchanged for North Korea.
From a previous Conservative voter.
Johnson must go.
He and his cabinet constitute, together, a dangerous group of inexperienced MPs with quite dubious backgrounds and extreme right wing views. They are obsessed with Brexit and committed to it simply because they cannot lose face following the referendum, itself an act of madness.
The referendum was based on Johnson's lies and deceit and every economic prediction is showing that it will lead to the economic ruin of our country. It is a reckless, huge leap into the unknown, a totally unnecessary gamble orchestrated just to bring Johnson and his crazy followers into power. But now they have no idea whatsoever how to halt its horribly damaging impact.
Jeremy Corbyn will never win the forthcoming election - we will end-up with a coalition government and this is exactly what we need. A coalition government will provide a reasoned, balanced approach and stop the Boris-led extremists in their tracks.
We must not vote Tory - they have completely lost the plot. Brexit is based on lies and deceit and all the evidence shows it offers us no advantages whatsoever - it will only give us a Trump-style future where decisions are made by complete amateurs.
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